Westerly Storm 33 vs HR 36
Last reviewed: - Vadim Nareyko
英式后驾驶舱经典对瑞典中央驾驶舱基准：Ed Dubois Westerly Storm 33（1986–1993，约141艘，10.11×3.51）对 Germán Frers Hallberg-Rassy HR 36（1989–2003，602艘 Mk I/II）。FairHelm 分叉：更低起步价与更薄北欧流动性，对更深波罗的海转售。拒绝把 Storm 写成中央驾驶舱（那是更早的 Westerly 33）。规格来自已发布型号数据。
Ownership study
The listing says Storm 33, yet the copy already claims a centre cockpit or years from 1980. Beside it the broker holds a Hallberg-Rassy 36 as the "normal Baltic" alternative in the same metre class. These two boats were never cockpit neighbours. One side is a British aft cockpit by Ed Dubois; the other is a Swedish centre cockpit by Germán Frers in Ellös. Until the plate closes years and form, the argument is about a foreign Westerly sister, not about this pair.
Storm 33 here is only the Dubois aft cockpit, window 1986-1993, a series of about 141 hulls, overall length 10.11 m, beam 3.51 m, displacement about 5.13 t. Reading her as a centre cockpit means confusing her with the older Westerly 33 of the Laurent Giles line. Years from 1980 in the title without a plate do not belong to this form. Before a deposit, match 1986-1993 and about 141 on the plate or yard papers, not in a foreign description with a foreign cockpit. Reject centre-cockpit Storm and years from 1980.
HR 36 here is only the Frers centre cockpit, window 1989-2003, about 602 hulls, beam 3.55 m, displacement about 7.5 t. Under one name live Mk I (hulls 1-256, 1989-1994, hull length about 10.87 m) and Mk II (257-602, 1994-2003, about 11.31 m, different transom and aft platform). The name Enderlein next to this 36 appears in foreign copy, but it does not belong to the Frers form. Until hull number, year, and a transom photo are lined up, two "HR 36" cards cannot be treated as one boat.
The fork is a British aft with a thinner northern comparison pool of about 141 hulls against a Swedish centre cockpit with a denser, more recognisable Baltic secondary market of about 602 hulls. This is not a nostalgia quarrel and not a quarrel over who is shorter on the plate. Berth, insurance, and time to exit the deal diverge with cockpit and pool depth, not with whose badge sounds louder on the board.
Hauling both on one day covers a shared 1980s-1990s map with different accents. Shared list: calendar age of the standing rigging, soft deck zones after frost, winter history. On the Storm, stress gelcoat osmosis and bulkhead tabbing (how bulkheads are bonded to the skin) plus rejecting centre cockpit and years from 1980. On the HR, stress teak fastenings, chainplates (metal fittings that join standing rigging to the hull), and Mk checks from the stern.
A season afloat on the 10.11 m aft boat and on the centre-cockpit class around 10.9-11.3 m is counted from berth and policy, crane with winter storage, and money set aside for osmosis or teak, sails, and wire. The SEK bands below are gathered for this pair and show only the order of seasonal spend.
This page does not discuss the listing price or the surveyor's conclusion. How much remains in the Westerly laminate, what HR teak fastenings will show, and how many seasons the wire has left become visible on hard standing, not from the advert.
When to pick which
Westerly Storm 33
The Storm 33 (Dubois, Westerly) fits buyers who need a British aft cockpit on 10.11×3.51 m with the 1986-1993 window and a series of about 141. Identity closes on the 1986-1993 plate and on rejecting centre cockpit and years from 1980. Before a deposit, haul for osmosis and bulkhead tabbing and take standing-rigging invoices.
HR 36
Centre-cockpit living by Frers in Ellös leads to the HR 36. The plate must show 1989-2003 and a series of about 602; Mk I and Mk II are checked by hull number and a stern photo. Before a deposit, teak and chainplates are checked by hand, and wire years are confirmed only by a service invoice.
Baltic ownership cost bands
| Cost theme | Storm 33 band (SEK) | HR 36 band (SEK) | Note |
|---|---|---|---|
| Berth + insurance | 20 000–52 000 | 28 000–70 000 | class ~10.1–11.3 m |
| Haul-out + winter | 8 000–22 000 | 12 000–30 000 | crane and keel supports |
| Teak / osmosis / deck reserve | 10 000–35 000 | 14 000–45 000 | Westerly osmosis vs HR teak |
| Rigging reserve | 7 000–22 000 | 9 000–26 000 | wire age |
| Systems / engine | 8 000–28 000 | 10 000–32 000 | 1980s–1990s |
| Planning total | 55 000–155 000 | 80 000–200 000 | excluding major teak or osmosis campaigns |
The SEK bands in the table repeat the previously published figures for this pair without change and hold the class around 10.1-11.3 m. The last word still belongs to your yard invoice and your policy text.
对比表
| Category | Westerly Storm 33 | HR 36 |
|---|---|---|
| 总长 (LOA) | 10.11 m | 10.87 m |
| 船宽 | 3.51 m | 3.55 m |
| L/B | 2.88 | 3.06 |
| LWL | unknown | 9.35 m |
| Draft | unknown | 1.7 m |
| Displacement | unknown | 7,500 kg (light) |
| Ballast | unknown | 3,400 kg |
| Wetted surface | unknown | 31.3 m², calculated |
| Hulls built | unknown | 602 |
| Designer | unknown | Germán Frers |
| 生产年份 | 1986-1993 | 1989-2003 |
| 概览 | Westerly Storm 33 是北欧最知名的 1986 年代末英国性能巡航艇之一。Ed Dubois 为 Westerly Marine 设计；1986 年至 1993 年建造，约 141 艘船体下水——后驾驶舱巡航艇，实木内饰仍吸引斯堪的纳维亚的英国侨民船东。长 10.1 米 LOA、宽 3.51 米、排水量约 5 252 公斤，适合夫妇和小家庭在波罗的海、斯卡格拉克和北海航行。 Dubois 设计响应型船体，Lloyd's 规格 GRP，内饰为实木和胶合板而非模制内衬——保养有记录时验船报告仍显扎实。1993 年起 Storm... | HR 36 是北欧交易最活跃的中央驾驶舱巡航艇之一。Germán Frers 为 Hallberg-Rassy 设计；1989 年至 1997 年生产，800 多艘船体。长 10.75 米、宽 3.45 米、排水量约 8 500 公斤，适合夫妇和小型船员在波罗的海、斯卡格拉克和北海航行。 HR 36 结合受保护的中央驾驶舱、扎实 GRP 层压和在恶劣天气中可预测的操船特性。1985–1995 年中央驾驶舱甲板上的原厂柚木覆盖是典型验船主题——可与 HR 34 和 HR 43... |
| 典型问题 | 问：Westerly Storm 33 bilge-keel 修平有哪些问题？ 答：双龙骨搁浅磨损和修平裂缝在英国进口船上常见——与 fin-keel 替代方案对比定价前需专业验船。 问：Westerly Storm 33 舵轴承间隙有哪些问题？ 答：后驾驶舱布局集中舵负载；间隙需验船，远洋季前可能需重建。 问：Westerly Storm 33 舷窗密封有哪些问题？ 答：实木内饰在舷窗密封失效时很快出现水渍——购前压缩测试所有单元。 问：Westerly Storm 33 Storm Cruiser rig 混淆有哪些问题？ 答：1989 年后 Cruiser 变体 rig 更短——核实帆具清单与宣传性能是否一致。 问：Westerly Storm 33 链板渗漏有哪些问题？ 答：链板密封失效常表现为天花板污渍——购前湿度测绘；每区重新密封 6 000–20 000 克朗。 | 问：HR 36 是否有渗透问题？ 答：有——1990 年前船体可能出现皮下起泡；湿度超过 15% 需处理；10–11 米船体典型 €4 000–9 000。 问：链板问题有多严重？ 答：链板周围甲板芯材潮湿是最常见验船发现；每个区域 €800–2 500。 问：固定支索典型寿命是多少？ 答：行业惯例 10–12 年；10.75 米桅杆全索具预算 €3 000–6 000。 问：海底阀是已知问题吗？ 答：原装 Blakes 需每年润滑；更换每个配件 €150–400。 问：柴油冷却系统状况如何？ 答：MD21/MD22 可靠但热交换器锌阳极常被忽视；叶轮每 200 小时更换。 Q: 在波罗的海拥有一艘 HR 36，现实的年度持有成本是多少？ A: 除购船价外，请预算保险、冬季存放、索具检查和 1980–90 年代船体的柚木/甲板维护。HR 36 在北欧二手市场表现强劲（见... |
深入了解两款船
常见问题
- Storm 33 or HR 36 for Baltic ownership?
- Pick the Storm 33 (Ed Dubois, 1986–1993, ~141, aft cockpit, 10.11×3.51) when a British classic and lower typical entry price fit. Pick the HR 36 (Germán Frers, 1989–2003, 602 Mk I/II, centre cockpit) when Nordic resale depth and protected living win. Reject Storm as centre-cockpit. The fork is cockpit living and market depth, not badge romance alone.
- What years and designers should I verify on the plate?
- Storm 33: Ed Dubois, 1986–1993, about 141 hulls at 10.11×3.51 m. Reject centre-cockpit attribution and years starting in 1980. HR 36: Germán Frers, 1989–2003, 602 hulls (Mk I 1–256; Mk II 257–602) at hull about 10.87 / 11.31 m, beam 3.55 m.
- Is the Storm 33 a centre-cockpit twin of the HR 36?
- No. The Storm 33 is aft cockpit. Centre-cockpit Westerlys of that era include the older Westerly 33 (Laurent Giles). Do not mix Storm 33 plates with Westerly 33 centre-cockpit sisters.
- What should a survey prioritise on these two?
- On the Storm 33 prioritise gelcoat osmosis and bulkhead tabbing on 1980s GRP, plus standing-rigging age. On the HR 36 prioritise teak fasteners, chainplates, and standing-rigging age. Winter-storage history moves price on both.
- How do annual Baltic ownership costs compare?
- Plan berth, insurance, haul-out, teak or osmosis reserves, and rigging reserves in the bands on this page (about 55,000–155,000 SEK for the Storm 33 and 80,000–200,000 SEK for the HR 36). Major teak or osmosis campaigns sit outside the annual band for both.